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title: Programming Laws Tier list | TheStandup
link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bye5avxGMKM
source: youtube-com-theprimetimeagen
published: 2026-10-25T13:00:13Z
updated: 2026-10-25T13:08:38Z
first_seen: 2026-10-25T14:18:35.600292421Z
authors:
- The PrimeTime
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  Full Episode:
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  [Description]
  The number 4 is holding up the internet, HTTPS might be bad design, PHP is cooked, and Casey is addicted to Pokémon. The crew also ranks programming's most famous laws, from Conway and Brooks to Goodhart and Hofstadter, before inventing a few laws of their own.

  [Chapters]
  00:00:00 - Tier listing Programming Laws
  00:00:46 - Conway
  00:06:16 - Brooks
  00:13:54 - Mooers
  00:18:35 - Eagleson
  00:21:58 - Linus
  00:29:06 - Wirth
  00:30:45 - Cunningham
  00:35:06 - Goodhart
  00:46:59 - Hyrum
  00:48:16 - Hofstadter
  00:50:08 - Outro

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  The Standup, ThePrimeagen, Teej, Trash Dev, Casey Muratori, programming, software engineering, programming laws, Conway's Law, Brooks's Law, Goodhart's Law, Linus's Law, Hyrum's Law, Hofstadter's Law, Cunningham's Law, PHP, HTTPS, SSL certificates, certificate authority, eMudhra, cybersecurity, programming humor, developer podcast, software development, coding, tech podcast, Pokémon
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\[Sponsor\]\
Good morning! And in case we don't see ya, good afternoon, good evening, and good coffee! → ssh terminal.shop

Full Episode:\
Youtube: https://youtu.be/Aw5rcawuxDQ\
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5o8f1oGoPyfIKJPVL4PW9c

\[Description\]\
The number 4 is holding up the internet, HTTPS might be bad design, PHP is cooked, and Casey is addicted to Pokémon. The crew also ranks programming's most famous laws, from Conway and Brooks to Goodhart and Hofstadter, before inventing a few laws of their own.

\[Chapters\]\
00:00:00 - Tier listing Programming Laws\
00:00:46 - Conway\
00:06:16 - Brooks\
00:13:54 - Mooers\
00:18:35 - Eagleson\
00:21:58 - Linus\
00:29:06 - Wirth\
00:30:45 - Cunningham\
00:35:06 - Goodhart\
00:46:59 - Hyrum\
00:48:16 - Hofstadter\
00:50:08 - Outro

\[Hosts/Guests\]\
Prime: https://thestanduppod.com/contributor/theprimeagen\
Teej: https://thestanduppod.com/contributor/teej-dv\
Trash: https://thestanduppod.com/contributor/trash\
Casey: https://thestanduppod.com/contributor/cmuratori

\[Partners\]\
Linear: https://trm.sh/linear\
Sentry: https://trm.sh/sentry

\[Socials\]\
x.com/thestanduppod\
instagram.com/thestanduppod\
tiktok.com/@thestanduppod\
facebook.com/profile.php?id=61573286173150

\[Other Places to find us\]\
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/01A062kejnXFkJE01bjN5J\
RSS: thestanduppod.com/feed.xml\
Clips: @TheStandupPodClips\
Website: thestanduppod.com

\[Tags\]\
The Standup, ThePrimeagen, Teej, Trash Dev, Casey Muratori, programming, software engineering, programming laws, Conway's Law, Brooks's Law, Goodhart's Law, Linus's Law, Hyrum's Law, Hofstadter's Law, Cunningham's Law, PHP, HTTPS, SSL certificates, certificate authority, eMudhra, cybersecurity, programming humor, developer podcast, software development, coding, tech podcast, Pokémon