--- title: Linus Torvalds on AI-assisted kernel contributions link: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAHk-=whTs09_ozN+e09GU68N1wPP56MUzDjrg9rnKxQUa0A_4Q@mail.gmail.com/ source: lobste-rs published: 2026-10-16T02:50:33Z updated: 2026-10-16T02:50:33Z first_seen: 2026-10-16T18:46:36.999527378Z authors: - lore.kernel.org via thang labels: - linux - vibecoding summary: Comments content: extracted html: 2026-10-16-linus-torvalds-on-ai-assisted-kernel-contributions.html --- ``` linux-kernel.vger.kernel.org archive mirror help / color / mirror / Atom feed ``` ``` From: Linus Torvalds To: Laurent Pinchart Cc: Kees Cook , Jori Koolstra , "Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" , Krzysztof Kozlowski , Sasha Levin , corbet@lwn.net, skhan@linuxfoundation.org, rdunlap@infradead.org, federico.vaga@vaga.pv.it, apw@canonical.com, joe@perches.com, workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Greg Kroah-Hartman , Justin Stitt , Carlos Maiolino , Jakub Kicinski , Brian Foster , Christoph Hellwig , David Disseldorp , Mark Brown , Jani Nikula , Jens Axboe , "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" , Vlastimil Babka , "Christian Brauner (Amutable)" Subject: Re: [PATCH] docs: remove Assisted-by references Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2026 13:45:09 -0700 [thread overview] Message-ID: (raw) In-Reply-To: <20261013201628.GO4214@killaraus.ideasonboard.com> On Tue, 13 Oct 2026 at 13:16, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > > What this is about is setting our expectations, telling what we want and > what we don't want. No. What you are about is something entirely different. It has nothing to do with "expectations", and it has everything to do with your hangups. I don't understand this whole idiotic concept of "don't use AI for X". Here's a new rule just for you: don't use compilers for any of your kernel submissions. Because if you can't show that you really understand what the machine is actually doing by writing your code in assembler, then I don't want to see your code contribution. You clearly aren't competent if you can't write it that way. And btw, you had better not use an editor to write that commit message either. Because I need you to show me that you can actually write a good commit message without using tools that make it easy to backspace and hide the mistakes you made while typing. Ok? Because otherwise those tool-assisted commits of yours clearly aren't showing that you know what you are doing. Do you not see how UTTERLY STUPID those kinds of rules would be? So no. We're not going to make stupid rules that say "you can't use tools for X". The kind of expectations *I* have is that people do their best and I expect people to understand what they are doing. But that understanding has very little to do with what tools they use. And quite honestly, in my experience, the people I respect and call intelligent are not the ones that shy away from using new and interesting tools. Linus ``` * * * ``` next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-13 20:45 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2026-10-09 8:31 [PATCH] docs: remove Assisted-by references Sasha Levin 2026-10-09 9:38 ` Laurent Pinchart 2026-10-09 10:09 ` Sasha Levin 2026-10-09 10:05 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski 2026-10-09 10:24 ` Greg KH 2026-10-09 15:20 ` Jonathan Corbet 2026-10-11 1:04 ` Steven Rostedt 2026-10-12 15:42 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) 2026-10-13 11:19 ` Jori Koolstra 2026-10-13 12:38 ` Laurent Pinchart 2026-10-13 12:50 ` Jori Koolstra 2026-10-13 13:01 ` Laurent Pinchart 2026-10-13 13:24 ` Ricardo B. Marlière (SUSE) 2026-10-13 12:49 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) 2026-10-13 17:16 ` Laurent Pinchart 2026-10-13 12:31 ` Laurent Pinchart 2026-10-13 12:59 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) 2026-10-13 13:04 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski 2026-10-13 13:07 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) 2026-10-13 13:12 ` Laurent Pinchart 2026-10-13 13:29 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) 2026-10-13 13:37 ` Jori Koolstra 2026-10-13 14:52 ` Kees Cook 2026-10-13 14:54 ` Jori Koolstra 2026-10-13 14:58 ` Jori Koolstra 2026-10-13 17:12 ` Kees Cook 2026-10-13 17:42 ` Laurent Pinchart 2026-10-13 19:25 ` Kees Cook 2026-10-13 20:16 ` Laurent Pinchart 2026-10-13 20:45 ` Linus Torvalds [this message] 2026-10-14 13:56 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) 2026-10-16 14:19 ` Matthew Brost 2026-10-17 17:42 ` Troy Benjegerdes 2026-10-19 17:41 ` lyude 2026-10-14 18:47 ` Kees Cook 2026-10-15 23:14 ` Jeremy Dean Clifton 2026-10-13 15:02 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) 2026-10-13 16:58 ` Kees Cook 2026-10-13 17:32 ` Laurent Pinchart 2026-10-16 16:14 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) 2026-10-14 3:23 ` Theodore Tso 2026-10-14 11:23 ` Mark Brown 2026-10-14 13:08 ` Jori Koolstra 2026-10-14 13:42 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) 2026-10-14 14:15 ` Mark Brown 2026-10-19 22:44 ` Laurent Pinchart 2026-10-19 16:32 ` lyude 2026-10-19 22:24 ` Laurent Pinchart 2026-10-19 16:26 ` lyude 2026-10-16 18:26 ` Ihor Solodrai 2026-10-19 16:21 ` lyude 2026-10-13 4:24 ` Kees Cook 2026-10-13 5:56 ` Randy Dunlap 2026-10-13 6:18 ` Greg KH 2026-10-13 8:25 ` Kees Cook 2026-10-13 12:28 ` [PATCH] docs: remove Assisted-by reference Jori Koolstra 2026-10-13 12:55 ` Laurent Pinchart 2026-10-13 13:03 ` Jori Koolstra 2026-10-13 13:10 ` Laurent Pinchart 2026-10-13 13:20 ` Jori Koolstra 2026-10-13 13:55 ` Laurent Pinchart 2026-10-19 16:50 ` lyude 2026-10-13 15:18 ` Mark Brown 2026-10-13 17:07 ` Laurent Pinchart 2026-10-13 20:01 ` Shuah Khan 2026-10-19 16:15 ` lyude ``` * * * ``` Reply instructions: You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email using any one of the following methods: * Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client, and reply-to-all from there: mbox Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style * Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to switches of git-send-email(1): git send-email \ --in-reply-to='CAHk-=whTs09_ozN+e09GU68N1wPP56MUzDjrg9rnKxQUa0A_4Q@mail.gmail.com' \ --to=torvalds@linux-foundation.org \ --cc=apw@canonical.com \ --cc=axboe@kernel.dk \ --cc=bfoster@redhat.com \ --cc=brauner@kernel.org \ --cc=broonie@kernel.org \ --cc=cem@kernel.org \ --cc=corbet@lwn.net \ --cc=david@kernel.org \ --cc=ddiss@suse.de \ --cc=federico.vaga@vaga.pv.it \ --cc=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org \ --cc=hch@infradead.org \ --cc=jani.nikula@intel.com \ --cc=jkoolstra@xs4all.nl \ --cc=joe@perches.com \ --cc=justinstitt@google.com \ --cc=kees@kernel.org \ --cc=krzk@kernel.org \ --cc=kuba@kernel.org \ --cc=laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com \ --cc=linux-doc@vger.kernel.org \ --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \ --cc=ljs@kernel.org \ --cc=rdunlap@infradead.org \ --cc=sashal@kernel.org \ --cc=skhan@linuxfoundation.org \ --cc=vbabka@kernel.org \ --cc=workflows@vger.kernel.org \ /path/to/YOUR_REPLY https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html * If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header via mailto: links, try the mailto: link ``` Be sure your reply has a **Subject:** header at the top and a blank line before the message body. * * * ``` This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox; as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s). ```